• Hello InMoovers,

    I like to include the FSR (Force Sensitive Sensor) to all my finger servo’s.

    https://learn.adafruit.com/force-sensitive-resistor-fsr

    For the starter_kit I’ve re-designed some servo adapter things, to make it possible to slide the servo forwards/backwards.
    Next step, is the position-holder for the FSR.

    To get a idea how it looks:…[Read more]

  • Marten de Groot posted an update 3 months ago

    Before I can start with my complete InMoov, I need to upgrade my UM2 filament spool-holder.
    I’ve ordered some COLORFABB_XT spools with 2.2kg filament :)
    Not sure if XT filament is the right choice for some mechanical parts.

    • yep… Colorfabb is great stuff, iv tried every brand/type out there ,, i do a lot of printing,,, In Australia i use “Blueprinted” filaments which is pretty good quality for a cheap filament Colorfabb is hard to get here and its bloody expensive..
      I only use PLA you would surprised how tough the stuff when printed correctly – you wont have any…[Read more]

      • Thanks for your information.
        I get lucky to live in the Netherlands, the shipping costs are free when I order one spool.
        And with the 2.2kg spools it’s 30% less in price.

        I’m sure I need to play with some settings (temps and max speed).
        I hope to start this evening with some tests :)

        I’ve used CollorFabb PLA for some time now and this prints…[Read more]

        • Its worth having a go at trying other other filaments but iv found you really cant beat good quality PLA when its printed correctly,, its hard so its good for gears and moving parts It prints like a dream compered to other filaments,,, and it doesn’t destroy the planet,,,
          I’v been R&D on 3d printers full-time for about 4 years now, mainly on d…[Read more]

          • CollorFabb PLA is good material anyway.
            XT can handle a higher temp when it’s printed, this part is a positive thing if InMoof stays for a long day in sunlight.
            So maybe I will use XT for some outside parts and all others with PLA :)

  • The new printed shaft fits well and it looks that it can handle the rotation.

  • So, the new hexagonal shaft / Small_Gear and Servo_adapter files are uploaded :)

    http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1824042

    I will test this soon and will share a video later this week.

  • Instead of a DogBone shaft, I’ve designed a new small Wrist_Gear and servo-adapter and will use a 6mm hexagonal shaft.
    I hope the 6mm hexagonal shaft is strong enough :)
    Tomorrow I will print all parts and if it works fine, I will include these parts to the Wrist upgrade set @ Thingiverse.

  • I\’ve uploaded all Wrist upgrade files to Thingiverse:

    http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1824042

    Enjoy… and don\’t forget to share your results :-)

  • Today I received my new Lenovo Thinkpad 8,3″ and the DogBone shaft :-)
    Later this day, I hope to finish the last things for the new Wrist DogBone shaft.
    (I need to change some small things to makethe DogBone shaft fit between the small Wrist gear and to the servo DogBone adapter)

  • I’ve connect all fishing lines to the fingers and the servo’s.
    All runs more freely and looks OK for me, here the test video with a complete Arm/Hand/Fingers:

    • That is awesome. No tensioning spring is the best feature! I guess you could add a tension spring like you had in your single finger tutorial.
      I think this is pretty innovative which begs the question what does the rest of your bot look like?

      • Hi Perry,
        Yes for sure I will include the springs which I’m using with my Finger_Starter kit.
        This makes programming a closed position more easy and they are to safe the servo mechanical way :-)

    • Very nice Marten!
      It’s very interesting to see how you managed the wrist servo, I guess we could add a second servo for wrist abduction. That would be a great extra feature. (Hand Mini breakout Nervo Boards and Nervo boards would need to be transformed and all scripts and gestures as well though…)
      Will you test it running continuously full 10…[Read more]

  • Finally the new ServoBed is done and fits very well.
    For now I’m using a 98mm DogBone drive shaft from a tamiya RC truck.
    Later, I will order this one:

    https://www.rcplanet.com/Associated_Dogbone_108mm_SC8_2e_RTR_p/asc89576.htm

    • Very nice work. I’m waiting to see the fingers and wrist working together. Fantastic

      • Thanks Rodolfo,
        Here a video from this complete setup:

        Tomorrow I will start to connect all the finger fishing-lines to the servo-pulley’s :-)

        It looks good so far ;-)

        • Once again nice work. It would be great to have a printable shaft for the wrist as opposed to a dog bone. Just another part I would have to wait for when I want to try something late at night. I thought you had a different servo offset in your previous vid and didn’t need the universal joint functionality

  • The Servobed is updated, so tonight I can mount the Wrist servo and measure the distance between the small Wrist-Gear and the servo.
    To finish this Wrist update, I only need to print the servo link.
    Then it’s time to mount the Hand and all the fingers :-) (I can’t wait…)

  • I’ve decided to make new Wrist Gears to, so all the Finger-fishing lines are more in line with the servo’s !
    The Wrist servo will placed on the Finger servobed and with a axle it will be connected to the small Gear.
    When I’ve printed the Gears, I can start drawing the Servo part…
    Later I will share more pictures and if it works, I will share all…[Read more]

    • I wish that works, it’s a great Idea

      • Haha, my fingers are crossed :-)

        The Wrist servo is blocking the complete way for all fishing-lines.
        With the servo placed on the servobed, it makes it full open.
        So this saves a lot of friction :-)

        (printer is almost done with the last peace :-) )

    • Hello Marten. I came to that exact same conclusion last night while assembling my tendons. They have been very finicky and I am not confident the spring system will hold up. The wrist rotation really plays with the tensions and geometries. I was thinking of a system where the lines ran through the centerline of the wrist. The servo can be moved…[Read more]

  • I’ve updated the info (included a “How To” for my Finger_Starter kit V2:

    http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1794206

    And here a video without the spring:

    • Awesome Marten… going to try these servo pulleys with my new inMoov I am currently building… good work man…

    • Great Marten! I want to see when the pulley is set in the servo bed how the servos are acting. As I said in our email exchange, I have burned so many MG996 and MG995, that I do not trust those servos anymore. I never, yet burned a HK15298.
      Initially when I created the pulley and the servo bed it was for to solve a restriction rotation of 90…[Read more]

      • Tomorrow and the next two day’s I have some spare time during the day :-)
        First I need to finish my Wrist update, this will help a lot to run more freely !
        Yesterday evening/night I’ve printed the first parts and one needs a small modification to fit better.
        When this fits well, I can draw the servo part…

        I will do my best, to show a moving…[Read more]

  • Here two pictures from all MG996R servo’s and All CS238MG servo’s, to see the difference in the total weights.
    The CS238MG servo’s saving a 161 gram of weight and they are placed more closer to the elbow !
    Both are a positive part, to safe a lot of friction to all arm and shoulder servo’s

    For the CS238MG it was necessary to redesign a simple…[Read more]

  • So, all five Servo Pulley’s are done to :-)
    Tomorrow evening (after work) it’s time to assembling all things together.

  • So, the CS238MG ServoAdapter production is done for the Right Hand :-)
    Next production are five Servo Pulley sets….

  • Here some pictures to show the difference between the servo weights…
    The MG996R was my first choice for the InMoov hand.
    The CS238MG servo weights including a mounted servo-adapter 30gr. less as the MG996R !
    So if I will use these CS238MG servo’s for my InMoov hand, it will saves a 150gr. of weight :-)
    I think when I’ve finished the new…[Read more]

    • They may save weight but they may not be strong enough for the inMoov hand… The hand is not the same as the finger starter. There is a lot more friction on the push/pull finger mechanisms. The servos need to work much harder than the simple finger kit… However, let us know if they work because less weigh is always welcome…

      • Hi Richard,
        I’m almost sure these smaller servo’s are strong enough for the Hand.
        (don’t forget the special pulley which I’m using!)
        The spring which I’m using now, is perfect to start.
        If needed, I can use a stronger spring to get more torque.
        I hope to show the results this weekend :-)
        My goal is minimum to hold a softball or a bottle of…[Read more]

  • If you like to print my new Finger_Starter kit including the new pulley’s, here you can find all the files :-)

    http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1794206

    Have fun… ;-)

  • Today I finally received my smaller servo’s :-)

    https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=51891

    After printing a servo-adapter, to mount this smaller servo in a standard servo place…
    I made some tests with the new pulley and it looks all great !
    The current use stay’s very low, even when I’m holding down the…[Read more]

  • Marten de Groot posted an update 4 months ago

    Here two views from the pulley which I’m testing with the Finger Starter Kit V2 :-)

    When the Finger moves to the Open position, the pulley is pulling with the small circular side.
    And when the Finger moves to the Closed position, the bigger oval side is used to pull the Finger…
    The servo makes a turn from 0 to 180, that’s way I can use a…[Read more]

    • I want to test these pulleys for sure! I’m guessing it will be also okay for our servos HK 15298 which have a restriction from 0 to 90 degrees.

      • Hi Gaël,

        For a 0 to 90 degree turn, I need to make them a bit bigger !
        These are now designed for 0 to 180 degrees.
        (please check your dropbox ! :-) )

        After some tests, I will upload them to Thingiverse.

  • Marten de Groot posted an update 4 months ago

    Here a video from the new Finger Starter kit V2…
    The servo current use, stay’s very low during the test, sometimes it’s passing the 0.26A during a start.
    (I’m still waiting for the new servo’s, so a second video will come soon !)

    Regards,
    Marten

  • Finally the Arduino fits well in the updated FingerStarter_Kit.
    (see picture)
    The new pulley and adapter for the small servo also fits well.

    I need to say…..
    I’ve found a other servo, which is a bit bigger and has 10gr more weight
    The good thing is, a standard pulley like Futaba will fit.
    And it has 2,1kg more torque as the small…[Read more]

    • Very cool Marten! Once the finger is assembled, a little video will be nice to see!

      • Hi Gaël,

        Thanks and yes, when all is running fine together…. I will share a “little” video :-)
        I think this will happen, when I get the new servo’s because of the fit to the pulley’s.
        I hope to get them next Tuesday.

    • when trying to reduce the forarms weight – did you experiment with getting less weight from the printed parts too? Just had a chance to look at a fiber enforced part at an exhibition. It had a thin layer of fiber on top and bottom of the part (needs 2 extruders) but showed impressing strenght.

      • Hi Juerg,

        I hope to save some weights with the new servo’s.
        They have three times less weight then the servo’s which I’m using now.
        And the servobed will be smaller.

        About the printing parts.
        I’ve done one finger with Carbon fill and is very lite.
        I’m only not sure enough, if this is strong enough !

        • how did you print the carbon item? Layer size? Perimeters? Fill?
          what tensions are you using? did you try to reduce friction of the tensions?

  • This is what I’ve printed yesterday, it needs some smalle updates to fit the Arduino better :-)
    When this all fits well, I will share this @ ThingiFirse including the new servo pulley !

    • Hey Marten, that seems like a great modification. I have a question if you have a moment, since you designed the nerv boards. I have one servo (Rt arm omoplate), which when connected to the nervo board, gets hot and eventually burns when connected to the nervo board. The servo works just fine on a tester etc. I have seen in the tutorial, the…[Read more]

      • Hmm, it sounds there is something else happen with your servo connection.
        If there is a shortcut between the Arduino shield and the small PCB, the flat-cable will start getting hot !
        Please double check if there is no connection between servo outputs 10 and 11.

        If possible could you send me some pictures from your boards?

  • Today I’ve printed a first updated FingerTest plate, including a spring which I’m using as a mechanical Servo-Safer.
    See pictures….
    And tomorrow I hope to test the new 2.5kg servo’s, this depends of the servo’s will be delivered :-)
    I can’t wait….

    • Hello Marten,
      Very nice module for a Finger Starter!!!
      There is no doubt that the servo of 2,5kg will work because even a small SG92R works. With the Finger Starter there isn’t much friction. But such servo will burn for sure if used in the hand. The friction is far greater in many ways in the hand, that is the reason even a MG996 of 12kg Torque…[Read more]

      • Hi Gaël,

        The spring main function is to safe the servo mechanical (there is no direct blocking anymore).
        And including my servo pulley’s, the finger “close position” gets a smaller arm length !
        So this safes a lot of energy use from the servo, when the finger is in his “close position” :-)
        I’m almost sure this spring setup is enough to hold a…[Read more]

  • Hello InMoovers,

    Last weekend a good friend and me where asked to come to the “Mini Maker Faire” in the Netherlands.

    http://www.eindhovenmakerfaire.nl/?lang=en

    We where there “as builders” to talk with people how like to build something like InMoov.
    At our stand, we shared some more projects from https://www.wevolver.com/home/

    During this wee…[Read more]

  • amby posted an update 10 months, 3 weeks ago

    i find this articulation interesting

    • no idea, what is this good for?

      • @Juerg, I’m guessing Amby sees it for the torso and stomach displacements.
        The two armonics drive must be for the shoulders. Though when you know how much an armonic drive cost, you back off a little. :)
        @Amby, yes, it is on that U-joint principle that I had designed the stomach rotations.

  • amby posted an update 11 months, 4 weeks ago

    my robot with plateform

    • Very good progress Amby with your robot! Is the wheel platform large enough to keep the robot in balance when you drive it around?

    • hello gael thank you yes the wheels plateform is enough for balance
      all is ok with my prototype cardboard so now i start to build in wood

  • amby posted an update 1 year ago

    hello you can see my video about my easy plateform here
    you can see battery removable easy when it is discharge change by a new

  • amby posted an update 1 year ago

    hello everybody i build a plateform for inmoov it is a very easy plateform very cheaper
    it is my first prototype in card board so if some people are interested i can send you plans
    amby

    • Nice work! It is amazing what you do with cardboard ! Can you share some information about the motors you used?

    • Amby the King of Cardboard!
      As I commented on your post on MyRobotLab, you could make Thingy on Thingiverse with the DXF and all informations of the motors, wheels and sources. Some builders could reproduce it in PVC or plexiglas.

      • amby replied 1 year ago

        hello gael yes of course a can give everybody plans for built it this plateform very cheap but in first i builf in cardboard for prototype and when all is ok i give plans and informations
        i design a connectors for wheels and motor
        so i use a motorcycle for children find in trash a small bicycle children find in trash and i use a batterie for drill…[Read more]

  • So, finally my UM2 Fan upgrade is done.
    Hopefully it gives me now a better “HangOver” result :-)

    http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1078510

    Next week I will go further with the servo pully’s including the springs.
    The spring will be used, to function like a servo_saver and at the same time to stretch the braided fishing line.…[Read more]

  • Here some pictures from the new ServoBed:
    I’ve replaced two servo’s more to centre, to get some more hight.
    I’m almost finished with the last RotaWrist parts.
    When these are ready, I need to check the RobCableFront part.
    I need to (re)move some holes in this part.

  • Last night and today I’ve printed all the RobParts.
    Now I’m printing a new ServoBed and tomorrow I will start with all RotaWrist parts.
    When that’s ready, the complete ForArm and Hand are ready for use :-)

  • Servo Pulley can now be downloaded: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1052776
    I will upload more sizes later these day\’s.

  • So, during some spare time this day’s, I’ve printed a complete Right hand.
    All in PLA and everything fits well :-)
    My next step is to start with the Right underarm parts, so I can install all servo’s and connect these to all the Fingers.

    Here some pictures from the complete Right hand:

    • Woouuiii !
      Nice prints! Well now the forarm and you just about ready to have a Right hand!

      • Haha, I can’t wait…
        I’m printing the last day’s at Day and Night… :-)
        I hope the forearm is ready in about two day’s.

        Next day’s I will check all the lengths which each finger needs to lift them completely with the new servo pulley.
        So I can start re-designing the pulley for each finger.

  • For the complete Right hand, the Thump is ready:

  • Here a video again, with the new servo pulley which is specially designed for a Finger movement.
    It’s designed for servo’s which can turn a full 180 degrees.
    This Pulley gives a better torque and there’s less change to move to much to destroy the servo or finger.
    There are two option about the spring (in this video I’m using a elastic cord…[Read more]

    • Nice!
      So the white is the elastic cord and it runs all the way to the end of the finger, if I juge the white spot at finger tip.
      What kind of elastic cord? Don’t you think it will stretch more and more over time?
      I also can see the asymetric effect on the black braided line.

      • Hi Gael and thanks for your comment and time :-)

        The elastic cord is a basic peace which you normally will use for clothes.
        It’s now just to do the job of the spring.
        I’ve ordered some springs and have to wait they will be here.

        I hope the asymmetric effect is in a positive way :-)
        At the end of the finger position, the servo can give more…[Read more]

  • Here some better pictures the new servo Finger pully together:

    • Interesting design! I like the idea to set the servo horn within the pulley. They might be a bit too thick to fit under arm covers though… Let us know.

  • I’ve made a other servo pully.
    I hope to get soon the springs because they are needed in this design.
    Here two pictures from a mounted pully at a servo and a picture with some views from the drawing:

    • Hi Marten
      I think before changing the pullies we should agree what the mechanical requirements are for the fingers.
      In my arms I use mg996R and they can turn about 110 deg to the left and to the right (total 220). So when Gael says he can move all fingers with the exception of the middle one with an unmodified HK15298 servo which allows only 45…[Read more]

      • Hi Juerg,

        Thanks for your input about this.

        The good thing to use a 180 degrees pully, is that there is less change to break any mechanical parts.
        A other good thing is, there is a higher resolution to place/hold the finger at his position.
        Have you seen my Finger Starter video ?
        Here I’m using a MG996R servo and it turns a full 180 degrees…[Read more]

  • just started to print the ServoBed Part.
    I’ve edited the drawing to make it more 3D printer compatible :-)
    By some servo mount places it wasn’t the best way to print.
    Here the new drawing:

  • So here a simple test video from the FingerStarterKit:
    (At this moment, I only use the default servo pulley which is included by the servo)

    • Here the Arduino code, which has a servo slow function included:

      #include

      Servo myservo; // create servo object to control a servo

      int potpin = 0; // analog pin used to connect the potentiometer
      int val; // variable to read the value from the analog pin
      int Pos;

      void setup()
      {
      myservo.attach(9); // attaches the servo on pin 9…[Read more]

      • Here a direct link to download the the code:

        https://copy.com/oAbFa2h1JoIPBVc7

        • Hi Marten,
          I always like to see videos, they tell so much more than words!
          That carbon filament is great looking!
          I did make a Arduino script when I was testing the carbone foam sensors on the finger starter. I’m wondering if I still can find it in all my data. It could maybe help you or others, as I recall it was a bit of a different approach.

          • Found the script back in my data base:

            #include

            const int servoPin = 3;
            const int sensorPin = A0;
            int sensorReading;

            int pos = 0; // variable to store the servo position

            Servo myservo;

            void setup(){
            Serial.begin(57600);
            myservo.write(0); // Open finger.
            pos = 0;
            myservo.attach(servoPin );
            }

            void loop(){
            sensorReading =…[Read more]

            • Hi Gaël,

              Thanks for sharing your code to.

              The best way to use this sort sensor, is to include a servo slow (step-based movement) which I have included in my code.
              The code what I’ve shared isn’t the code what we need right now.
              It was just to test the reaction from the sensor as I showed you in Eindhoven.

              If we use a step-based movement, the…[Read more]

  • So, just finished the Finger Support plate for the servo and the Arduino board.
    I hope to have some spare time tomorrow to buy some glue for the finger parts.

    For the servo I will draw a smaller pulley so the servo can give more torque with less power.
    (original it use 90 degrees to move the finger up and down, I like to give it a try to use…[Read more]

    • Hey nice Marten!!
      I like that Carbon PLA. I remember the parts you showed me in Eindhoven, the quality was very good!
      Pulley rotates 90 degrees because the HK15298B digital servo recommended for the hand rotates only 90 degrees.
      That being said, you can use any servo you like with Finger Starter and of course model your own pulleys. :)

      • Hey Gael,

        The CarbonFil is more PET based !
        And yes, it’s nice material to use but it needs some attentions for the first layer.
        (OK I’m still playing with some settings like Nozzle Temp and PrintSpeed)

        About the servo:
        The thing what I hope to test, is that we can use smaller servo’s so we getting less weights in the Arms !
        Each gram what we…[Read more]

  • Just finished the last finger pieces for the Finger Starter Kit.
    All are printed with CarbonFil with a 0.2mm layer hight.
    (I now, it’s better to use 0.1mm :-) )

    • Hey looks great. Many, many more parts to print however …
      I give a filing to the finger parts where they move against each other because the printing in layers creates imperfect vertical surfaces.
      I do not want your pieces get broken but does it feel like the you might brake the parts when assembling them? I broke several with PLA and ABS when…[Read more]

      • I don’t now yet with the fingers.
        The CarbonFil is great stuff and feels strong.
        I’ve used this to make some prototype parts for my Camera Gimbal.
        And it didn’t break :-)
        For now I’m still waiting for advice about which glue I can use for this CarbonFil.

        I will come back to this question if I now more ;-)

        • Hi
          thanks for your comment. What is your print bed made of and what temp / preparations do you need to make the pieces stick to it?

      • I got the same trouble. Happily with abs it can be repaired quickly with acetone.
        Some times after I found this tip, just heat to smooth the holes. It looks like Mats Önnerby tips with airgun to mount pla parts but with a solder iron.
        Have a look on this video :

        Hope it can help.

        • Hi Juerg and Sebastien,

          I’m still using the standard clean glass plate from the UM2.
          After each print, I’m cleaning the plate directly when it’s still hot.

          For CarbonFil I’m using a temp from 255 C and the heated bed is set to 60 C.
          I’m still playing with some settings.
          Most important thing is that the plate needs to be levelled well and very…[Read more]

          • I think I will sit down and create a video about my finger assembling techniques including the strings. Watch out for it.

    • Great prints Marten!
      In the video posted by Sebastien, the idea is great! Specially if you drilled the holes a bit too wide.
      But be sure that finger stays loose, in the video they are stiff, rigid, and that is not okay for the movement. The finger should move freely at each joint.

      • Haha, yes the video is good for all the joint parts.

        I was more focused how to glue all fingerparts together like part-1 with part-2 etc….
        CarbonFil is PET based and PET is difficult to glue normally.
        I hope the 30% of carbon-mix will make it easier to glue this together.

  • Hello InMoovers,

    Last week I received my six servo’s for one InMoov Hand :-)
    I hope soon to start printing this.

    Before I start with this, I like to upgrade my UltiMaker-2 with a new 3DSolex Olsson Block and a BuildTak 3D Print Surface.
    I also ordered some extra Nozzles for this Olson Block.
    – One RVS 0.4mm for printing with CarbonFil.
    – O…[Read more]

    • Woouiii you are going to make wonders with that printer!
      You should have told me when we were in Eindhoven that you wanted to build the hand to make some tests with the hall sensor, I could have brought you one that I keep for my robot in case it breaks.
      Yeah, print first the finger starter it will be easier. Let me know for the finger tip design…[Read more]

      • Hi Gael,

        Thanks for your offer about the spare hand ;-)
        It’s no problem to print it myself, it’s a good test for my new UM2 configuration.

        I think there is a easy way to place a magnet in the top from the Vingers.
        This peace is printed in two parts, so I can drill a hole from 2mm in on of the parts.
        For the Hall sensor I’m not sure about the…[Read more]

  • amby posted an update 1 year, 4 months ago

    i do a short video first test how work my leg but is not finich again it is a prototype again

    • Very nice!
      I see that you are becoming a 3d printer master after being the king of cartboard.
      I’m guessing what we see is for the knee rotation, correct?
      Did you finally use the motors of the drills you bought or is it with a servo.

    • yes you are true gael it is for knee
      yes i am always the king of cardboard lol i do all my tests with cardboard and when it is good i do on abs
      i use a drill motor for castorama 11 euros motor batterie charger ans very strong

  • amby posted an update 1 year, 4 months ago

    hello the world it is so long time i dont give some new it is because il work to build my legs about the robot

    • Ehi nice project Amby! some videos in action!! And specification details!
      Controlled by MyRobotLab?
      Other builders will love that.

      • thank you gael i working to find a nice solution for my ankle and i do a video after for show everybody and in opensource :-)

  • amby posted an update 1 year, 7 months ago

    very nice your legs
    it is possible to see a video work
    thank you

  • amby posted an update 2 years, 1 month ago

    my birthday so happy