John Hughes – InMoov

John Hughes posted an update 6 years, 9 months ago

Hi

I have got as far as printing everything in the torso section as seen in the pictures. I had wanted to have this standing on my desk with the head attached but it is obviously going to be top heavy. Would I need to basically continue to the Mid Stomach which seems to have a flat base to create something that would support the head and torso,…[Read more]

John Hughes posted an update 6 years, 9 months ago

Hi

I am doing the main chest area at the moment and I am printing the supports around the Kinect. Have printed the two InterKinectMidV1s for the center. I have printed two InterKinectSideV1’s. Is that all I need to print of them, or are there four needed. Its hard to tell from the assembly pictures. It looks like just two are needed one on each…[Read more]

John Hughes posted an update 6 years, 10 months ago

Hi. This is how far I have got my project. I have the head upright on the basic shoulder parts. I have my servos on order so I will be doing some work on wiring it up soon. The Shoulder area is not totally stable and I was wondering what extra parts add on the bottom to give it some stablity until I am ready to move on. Can any one direct me to…[Read more]

Mindless replied 6 years, 10 months ago

Damian got a pic of his inmoov a few Post down ( Muiti-Coloured one),,, he has got the Front and Back Chest Plates plus the 2 Center Beams Fully built — ,, Personally i would do that ,, but do not Permanently join them together — you can permanently join each of the smaller plate pieces together in to Make the 4 Major section ( Front/Back…[Read more]

John Hughes posted an update 6 years, 10 months ago

Hi. Just wondering where the Speakermouthholder is meant to go in the head section. I seem to see reference for everything else except that. Kind Regards Ian

John Hughes posted an update 6 years, 11 months ago

Hi. Just a question. Now I am printing the correct parts, things are alot better. Although I have stuck one problem. The Jaw wont acclude totally, is that normal? Here is the face at the moment and as you can see. what seems to be the problem is the position of the Under Ear plate connector hitting the Jaw rear block. Any thoughts? Kind Regards…[Read more]

John Hughes posted an update 6 years, 11 months ago

Hi. I needed to trim the Face Holders to allow the Ear Sides to sit on correctly. Has anyone done a mod of these to make more room, or is there a good way to edit the stls for these?

Gael Langevin replied 6 years, 11 months ago

Hello John,
These parts normaly don’t need refining, I checked again the models and I have a gap between the parts of about a 1mm which lets them assemble correctly.
http://inmoov.fr/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Face-connection.png
The piece you have doesn’t have the nut holder, so I suspect its an older…[Read more]

John Hughes posted an update 6 years, 11 months ago

Mindless, I appreciate your comments. I am up to the task. I have built a life size R2D2, Dalek, B9 Lost in Space Robot, done the electronics. But I always seem to take one step forward and ten back. So I will get there. 🙂

Mindless replied 6 years, 11 months ago

Ok Cool,,,,, just saying there’s a few people who “jump the gun” when they first get there 3d printer and pick the Most difficult Project as there first Project,,,(Crash&Burn) I love that there enthusiastic for 3d printing but build one of “EricThePoolBoy” Engines first,,,, It’s a great first “advance” project – ,,- Inmoov is unlike any Projec…[Read more]

John Hughes posted an update 6 years, 11 months ago

Hi. So I am starting to reprint my inmoov from scratch. I started with some cheap filament that came on 250g rolls, but now I am buying 1kg rolls but its whiter and I want a uniform print. But, if I decided to spray the parts like I see some people have done, what do people use. I assume I would need to sand the surface. What Grits would you use…[Read more]

Ray Edgley replied 6 years, 11 months ago

I had some not so nice joins between parts after a glue failure, so I hid the ugliness with some nice red paint.
I sanded starting a 80 grit on the belt sander (Don”t do this, it melts the plastic)
I worked my way up the grits to 400 grit, hand sanding.
Then used some high gloss enamel paint.
The result were quite reasonable.
I would not suggest…[Read more]
Mindless replied 6 years, 11 months ago

Yep,, that right,,, buy all different Sandpaper Grades in the small rolls or sheets you will need some 800grit for sanding between coats of the Spray Putty and 1200grit for Sanding between the finish coats but get some 250grit /400grit/600grit for the rough work it just depends on how rough the Plastic Surface is to start with – Dulux have r…[Read more]

John Hughes posted a new activity comment 6 years, 11 months ago

Hi. I can understand the difficulty of maintaining files. I have been involved in R2D2 Hobby building and designing and providing open source files. Keeping revisions up to date is a real work in itself. I will definitely only follow the Gallery from this point. Definitely a good idea to remove the zip files.

Great work though.

Just out of…[Read more]

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Mindless replied 6 years, 11 months ago

Hay Hughes,,, It would be Wise to Really Study the Inmoov Project before Stating it again,,, this the most Complicated and Expensive Project available for 3Der’s & Modders ,,,,, And Good Hands On Mechanical & Software Design Experience a Must Have Pre-Request,,,, there’s a lot of Bugs that still have to worked out so re-printing parts is Nor…[Read more]

John Hughes posted an update 6 years, 11 months ago

Hi. Just had a frustrating day, printing the Lower back of the head to only realize the stl I downloaded a month or so ago was out of date. The one I printed was in two parts and minus joining lugs to connect to the rest of the head. What I find frustrating with the download section is that updates to the parts are occuring and the earlier…[Read more]

Gael Langevin replied 6 years, 11 months ago

Hello Hugues,
I am the only one updating the files on InMoov site, it’s a LOT of work to maintain, I can tell you that, and I do that only to please others for free…
The parts you are talking about has been updated in 2015.
I discovered that I forgot to update the ZIP file which contains the version LowerBackV2 file.
A while ago I wanted to…[Read more]
- John Hughes replied 6 years, 11 months ago
  
  Hi. I can understand the difficulty of maintaining files. I have been involved in R2D2 Hobby building and designing and providing open source files. Keeping revisions up to date is a real work in itself. I will definitely only follow the Gallery from this point. Definitely a good idea to remove the zip files.
  
  Great work though.
  
  Just out of…[Read more]
  - Mindless replied 6 years, 11 months ago
    
    Hay Hughes,,, It would be Wise to Really Study the Inmoov Project before Stating it again,,, this the most Complicated and Expensive Project available for 3Der’s & Modders ,,,,, And Good Hands On Mechanical & Software Design Experience a Must Have Pre-Request,,,, there’s a lot of Bugs that still have to worked out so re-printing parts is Nor…[Read more]

John Hughes posted an update 6 years, 11 months ago

Hi I want to print a basic support for the head and neck but rather than print a platform I would rather print the shoulder section. I am having trouble identifying the parts to print. Could anyone one define which parts will make the basic shoulder section, pictured here.

I can only find a ClavBackV2 and ClavFrontV2 in the Shoulder Files, but I…[Read more]

Acapulco Rolf replied 6 years, 11 months ago

Hi John
Take a look at the assembly sketches here:

Assembly Sketchs

Look at the sketches in the torso and shoulder sections for a steer

John Hughes posted an update 6 years, 11 months ago

Hi Thanks for the Servo advice. That’s on my shopping list. I have printed these parts off so far and I am just waiting on bolts to arrive to start putting things together. I also have all the eye parts done. I should start an album. But I just printed off the Throat Holder. I don’t know where it fits. The video I have of the Head and neck only…[Read more]

Bob Houston replied 6 years, 11 months ago

Check out this tutorial, http://inmoov.fr/neck-and-jaw/. There’s a comment about it towards the end.

John Hughes posted an update 6 years, 11 months ago

Hi what is the recommended main servo for the head. I am trying to work out the size to get so I can start fitting it together. Kind Regards Ian

Bob Houston replied 6 years, 11 months ago

I used a HS-805 BB – works great.
Gael Langevin replied 6 years, 11 months ago

All parts list and BOM page:

Hi what is the recommended main servo for the head. I am trying to work out the size to get so I can start fitting it together. Kind Regards Ian- John Hughes (@templar66) December 10, 2017

2x Hitec HS805BB HEAD 4 AXIS
1x servos HK15298B JAW MECHANISM
2x Servo DS929hvCorona or similar EYE MECHANISM

John Hughes posted a new activity comment 6 years, 11 months ago

Hi Yep the filing and sanding is making things alot neater. I don\’t know what the software is. Gael posted it with a response to how close the parts should fit. Kind Regards Ian

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Mindless replied 6 years, 11 months ago

Its Blender,,, just took a closer look at it — ,, haven’t used it in ages–,, Plus i really think i need Glasses now im getting errrr older,,,lol

John Hughes posted an update 6 years, 11 months ago

Hi What I had to do with the parts was file an area back near the lower two joining lugs on the Top Mouth part, to allow them to meet. The prints both join perfectly now, so I am not sure why I had a problem. One Lug slots over the other face part now, but looks neat from the outside. Thanks for the clarification on how they are meant to meet. I…[Read more]

Mindless replied 6 years, 11 months ago

Cool,,, File work is common–,, I’v built a lot of weird contraption over the years for farmers and you quickly realize its always easier to remove Material then it is to add Material–,,
PS- Whats that software ?
- John Hughes replied 6 years, 11 months ago
  
  Hi Yep the filing and sanding is making things alot neater. I don’t know what the software is. Gael posted it with a response to how close the parts should fit. Kind Regards Ian
  - Mindless replied 6 years, 11 months ago
    
    Its Blender,,, just took a closer look at it — ,, haven’t used it in ages–,, Plus i really think i need Glasses now im getting errrr older,,,lol
- buildstoys replied 6 years, 11 months ago
  
  It’s Blender – what Gael designed InMoov in:
  
  Frontpage
  - Mindless replied 6 years, 11 months ago
    
    Yep,,,It has a Pretty steep learning curve,, but it’s Open Soure and has it all,,,

John Hughes posted an update 6 years, 11 months ago

Hi I have just printed the SideHearv3 and when I try and align them with the TopMouthv3, they appear to not line up. Where the bolts are they seem to be spaced especially at the bottom connectors. Is this normal, or do I need to do some sanding and adjustment to get these lined up. The print seem to work well and had plenty of…[Read more]

Gael Langevin replied 6 years, 11 months ago

Hello,
On your picture you are giving an angle between thos two parts, but if you align the holes there shouldn’t be any gap. (Or almost no gap, it depends on the quality of your print)
See the image:
http://inmoov.fr/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Sans-titre.png

John Hughes posted an update 6 years, 11 months ago

Hi So I am slowly progressing with the 3d printing of the head parts, and I can see that there is a tutorial for putting the eye mech together and for mounting the jaw. Are there other pictorial tutorials on how to build the whole head up? Kind Regards Ian

Mindless replied 6 years, 11 months ago

Not that I know of,,, its pretty easy to work out once you play around with the Parts for a while,,, it just take a bit of time to get the whole project worked out—- thats one reason why i built- “3d Inmoov”- so i would know every Sq/mm of him–,,
- Gael Langevin replied 6 years, 11 months ago
  
  In the neck tutorial you can find this video which is usefull for to assemble the head:
  
  Hi So I am slowly progressing with the 3d printing of the head parts, and I can see that there is a tutorial for putting the eye mech together and for mounting the jaw. Are there other pictorial tutorials on how to build the whole head up? Kind Regards Ian- John Hughes (@templar66) December 1, 2017

John Hughes posted an update 6 years, 12 months ago

Hi. As I print the head I want to be able to add the electronics in as I go, rather than build the whole lot and add them in later. For the Eye mechanism I noticed that I need three Servos. The ones recommended seem to be close to $60 or more dollars each. Is there a more affordable but safe alternative for the servos, and would anyone have a link…[Read more]

Mindless replied 6 years, 12 months ago

Looking good,,, shop around for Servos and spend a day or 2 researching them,,,, I just uses Ebay to get a price average –

9G SG90 Micro Servo — the x2 small ones for the eyes-,, these are the cheapest you can get,,,, and you get what you pay for when it comes to servos—(normally)

MG996R Servos – these are the “Standard size” servos find in 1/1…[Read more]
- justo replied 6 years, 12 months ago
  
  I get all the servos from Ali-express.
  - Mindless replied 6 years, 12 months ago
    
    Hay Justo,,,,I heard “Hobby King” is a good place to buy from too- ,,
    - Gael Langevin replied 6 years, 11 months ago
      
      Hello John,
      I agree it’s better to add electronics as you built the head.
      
      Video Head
      
      The eye mechanism requires only two servo and the price for these servo is much lower than $60.
      Eye tutorial:
      
      Eye Mechanism
      
      Servo DS929HV for the eye average price is: €5.78 (Hobbyking)

John Hughes posted an update 6 years, 12 months ago

Hi I reprinted the Upper Mouth. Actually happy to have done it. I also downloaded the updated Ear frame part to match. Here are some pics of where I am at. Kind Regards Ian

John Hughes posted a new activity comment 6 years, 12 months ago

Hi
Thanks for that. I will have a look at printing the part one piece. I appreciate your continued patience. Kind Regards Ian

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Mindless replied 6 years, 12 months ago

No worries,, all my mod work is based on removing the glue from the building process and using screws & bolts instead because gluing PLA is difficult ,,

Gluing ABS with Acetone is easy and makes a Bullet Proof joint,,, I haven’t tried the lock tight but iv never head anyone complain about it either –,,, I normally just sand the two PLA Sur…[Read more]

John Hughes posted an update 6 years, 12 months ago

Hi. In regards to the Upper Mouth parts. I have the two part arrangement. I these meant to be joined together via acetone or are they held together by other means. I am using pla and I was told I could use acetone to join them. If they are to be glued, could you advise me whether that is the case and by what means. Kind Regards Ian

Mindless replied 6 years, 12 months ago

Heres a-”quote” about gluing PLA – and a link to– RepRap –

Talking to the technical department of Loctite their advice was to use Loctite 401, and although slightly expensive; £21.00 for 20g it sticks like the proverbial pig to a blanket. Just 3 or 4 drops, push together for about 30 seconds and its done. I’ve tried pulling, pushing and hitt…[Read more]
- John Hughes replied 6 years, 12 months ago
  
  Hi
  Thanks for that. I will have a look at printing the part one piece. I appreciate your continued patience. Kind Regards Ian
  - Mindless replied 6 years, 12 months ago
    
    No worries,, all my mod work is based on removing the glue from the building process and using screws & bolts instead because gluing PLA is difficult ,,
    
    Gluing ABS with Acetone is easy and makes a Bullet Proof joint,,, I haven’t tried the lock tight but iv never head anyone complain about it either –,,, I normally just sand the two PLA Sur…[Read more]

John Hughes posted a new activity comment 7 years ago

Hi I just dug out my xbox kinect and thought as a side project I would start looking at setting it up. I assume I would need to start with the nervo board? and work from there. Can I purchase a pre made board? Kind Regards Ian

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Mindless replied 7 years ago

Not that I know of,,, people use all sorts of gear to get there inmove running- some just have the arm and work on movement operation – some build the whole thing but have no idea on how to run it — there’s no hard and fast rules here but you must know Software /hardware setup – solder skills Arduino setup and Basic Coding ect -,,,, if you k…[Read more]
Gael Langevin replied 6 years, 11 months ago

Hello,
To run your kinect with MyRobotLab, you need to set it in the config files.
The Nervo Board doesn’t take control of the kinect, it’s the software MyRobotLab that will take over.
1-Install MRL by following this tutorial:

Hi I am obviously having trouble negotiating around the site. I can find printing the parts but I am having trouble finding tutorials or step by steps on building the parts. I want to get the black screws to connect the eye piece to the upper mouth. What type of screws do I need and where would there be a step by step guide to construction be?I…[Read more]– John Hughes (@templar66) November 22, 2017

2-Configure the Kinect config in your InMoov/config…[Read more]

John Hughes posted a new activity comment 7 years ago

Hi
Thank you for that. All found now and its a bit clearer what I need to do. I will have links in my favorites bar to these now so I will be able to move along ok. Thanks for your patience. Kind Regards Ian

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Mindless replied 7 years ago

No worries,,,, I don’t mind helping Newbies getting started off,,,
“Hope you enjoy the Inmoov Project”
- John Hughes replied 7 years ago
  
  Hi I just dug out my xbox kinect and thought as a side project I would start looking at setting it up. I assume I would need to start with the nervo board? and work from there. Can I purchase a pre made board? Kind Regards Ian
  - Mindless replied 7 years ago
    
    Not that I know of,,, people use all sorts of gear to get there inmove running- some just have the arm and work on movement operation – some build the whole thing but have no idea on how to run it — there’s no hard and fast rules here but you must know Software /hardware setup – solder skills Arduino setup and Basic Coding ect -,,,, if you k…[Read more]
  - Gael Langevin replied 6 years, 11 months ago
    
    Hello,
    To run your kinect with MyRobotLab, you need to set it in the config files.
    The Nervo Board doesn’t take control of the kinect, it’s the software MyRobotLab that will take over.
    1-Install MRL by following this tutorial:
    
    Hi I am obviously having trouble negotiating around the site. I can find printing the parts but I am having trouble finding tutorials or step by steps on building the parts. I want to get the black screws to connect the eye piece to the upper mouth. What type of screws do I need and where would there be a step by step guide to construction be?I…[Read more]– John Hughes (@templar66) November 22, 2017
    
    2-Configure the Kinect config in your InMoov/config…[Read more]

John Hughes posted an update 7 years ago

Hi I am obviously having trouble negotiating around the site. I can find printing the parts but I am having trouble finding tutorials or step by steps on building the parts. I want to get the black screws to connect the eye piece to the upper mouth. What type of screws do I need and where would there be a step by step guide to construction be?

I…[Read more]

Mindless replied 7 years ago

The “Build Yours” Tab has the tutorials and ever thing else you need ,,, some of the tutorials are using older parts I’m not sure if Mr Gael has updated them because its a time consuming job –
The Screws your looking for are in there in the “Hardware Map & BOM”— near the bottom of the “Build yours” List – –
- John Hughes replied 7 years ago
  
  Hi
  Thank you for that. All found now and its a bit clearer what I need to do. I will have links in my favorites bar to these now so I will be able to move along ok. Thanks for your patience. Kind Regards Ian
  - Mindless replied 7 years ago
    
    No worries,,,, I don’t mind helping Newbies getting started off,,,
    “Hope you enjoy the Inmoov Project”
    - John Hughes replied 7 years ago
      
      Hi I just dug out my xbox kinect and thought as a side project I would start looking at setting it up. I assume I would need to start with the nervo board? and work from there. Can I purchase a pre made board? Kind Regards Ian
      - Mindless replied 7 years ago
        
        Not that I know of,,, people use all sorts of gear to get there inmove running- some just have the arm and work on movement operation – some build the whole thing but have no idea on how to run it — there’s no hard and fast rules here but you must know Software /hardware setup – solder skills Arduino setup and Basic Coding ect -,,,, if you k…[Read more]
      - Gael Langevin replied 6 years, 11 months ago
        
        Hello,
        To run your kinect with MyRobotLab, you need to set it in the config files.
        The Nervo Board doesn’t take control of the kinect, it’s the software MyRobotLab that will take over.
        1-Install MRL by following this tutorial:
        
        Hi I am obviously having trouble negotiating around the site. I can find printing the parts but I am having trouble finding tutorials or step by steps on building the parts. I want to get the black screws to connect the eye piece to the upper mouth. What type of screws do I need and where would there be a step by step guide to construction be?I…[Read more]– John Hughes (@templar66) November 22, 2017
        
        2-Configure the Kinect config in your InMoov/config…[Read more]

John Hughes posted a new activity comment 7 years ago

Hi Could you send me a link to the post you referenced. I assume considering I just did a 6 hour print on the top mouth there should be some way of still using it?

Kind Regards

Ian

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Mindless replied 7 years ago

There is no Post I work on the fly –,, you should still be able to use it ,,, as you can see there a couple of Screw holes that have been added I assume there so you can screw “SidehearV3” on instead of gluing them which is a good idea,,, and its 1 piece instead of 2 which is a good idea — But it’s up to you which way to go,,, I haven’t…[Read more]

John Hughes posted a new activity comment 7 years ago

Hi. Thanks for that, it is support structure that I can remove. That\’s good. One thing though is I notice that the Top Mouth is now version 3. I printed the earlier version I downloaded a few weeks ago. Can I still use this, or do I have to do a reprint? Kind Regards Ian

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Mindless replied 7 years ago

Here’s a quick import I just done of a Version 2 I had archived ( light Tan) – and the new V3 Version I just downloaded (brown) – there been a lot of updates to this pieces so I would definitely reprint the new version,,, ( see the pic in the new post)
- John Hughes replied 7 years ago
  
  Hi Could you send me a link to the post you referenced. I assume considering I just did a 6 hour print on the top mouth there should be some way of still using it?
  
  Kind Regards
  
  Ian
  - Mindless replied 7 years ago
    
    There is no Post I work on the fly –,, you should still be able to use it ,,, as you can see there a couple of Screw holes that have been added I assume there so you can screw “SidehearV3” on instead of gluing them which is a good idea,,, and its 1 piece instead of 2 which is a good idea — But it’s up to you which way to go,,, I haven’t…[Read more]

John Hughes posted an update 7 years ago

Hi. I printed the eye plate as per instructions and without support material and it came out perfectly. The next parts I printed was the Upper mouth pieces that join to the bottom of the eye part. They have what I believe are support material under the nose and similar to rear sides. I am not sure if I am meant to remove the rear ones as I don’t…[Read more]

Mindless replied 7 years ago

Hay John…, if you go to the STL Parts Library and just Single click on a Picture the part will pop up in a Viewer that just spin the part around and around so you can see all sides of it,,, it can be very handy for checking stuff like that out – but yes those pieces under the Nose come off – Mr Gael adds the Support material to some pats par…[Read more]
- John Hughes replied 7 years ago
  
  Hi. Thanks for that, it is support structure that I can remove. That’s good. One thing though is I notice that the Top Mouth is now version 3. I printed the earlier version I downloaded a few weeks ago. Can I still use this, or do I have to do a reprint? Kind Regards Ian
  - Mindless replied 7 years ago
    
    Here’s a quick import I just done of a Version 2 I had archived ( light Tan) – and the new V3 Version I just downloaded (brown) – there been a lot of updates to this pieces so I would definitely reprint the new version,,, ( see the pic in the new post)
    - John Hughes replied 7 years ago
      
      Hi Could you send me a link to the post you referenced. I assume considering I just did a 6 hour print on the top mouth there should be some way of still using it?
      
      Kind Regards
      
      Ian
      - Mindless replied 7 years ago
        
        There is no Post I work on the fly –,, you should still be able to use it ,,, as you can see there a couple of Screw holes that have been added I assume there so you can screw “SidehearV3” on instead of gluing them which is a good idea,,, and its 1 piece instead of 2 which is a good idea — But it’s up to you which way to go,,, I haven’t…[Read more]

John Hughes posted a new activity comment 7 years ago

Hi

I thought I did read somewhere once that alot of the parts for the inmoov shouldn\’t need support material. I will have to give a go and see how it turns out. How far have you got?

Kind Regards

Ian

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Mindless replied 7 years ago

Hi Guys — Slice the parts “Without Support Material” then Slice “With Support Material” and see if any is Generated,,,,,, then use your best judgment to decide if it’s really needed,,,,

John Hughes posted an update 7 years ago

Hi

I am about to start on this big project and I want to start with the head down like alot of the builds here. I want to print the eye section first. As I am new to 3d printing, would I need to use support material for the eye piece? If someone can direct me on what you did I can get started and post my progress.

Kind Regards

John

gary replied 7 years ago

hi i am also new to 3d printing and am also trying to build the inmoov i just printed strait from the file worked OK for me
John Hughes replied 7 years ago

Hi

I thought I did read somewhere once that alot of the parts for the inmoov shouldn’t need support material. I will have to give a go and see how it turns out. How far have you got?

Kind Regards

Ian
- Mindless replied 7 years ago
  
  Hi Guys — Slice the parts “Without Support Material” then Slice “With Support Material” and see if any is Generated,,,,,, then use your best judgment to decide if it’s really needed,,,,