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Mats Önnerby a publié une note il y a 9 ans et 5 mois
I made a small upgrade of the shoulder servo. The small potentiometer broke, so I use a larger potentiometer with a 6mm shaft. It’s the olny part that I have changed,but I think the same principle can be used on all potentiometers. The new potentioneter can rotate 270 degrees instead of the original 180 degrees, so the servo mapping has to be…En afficher davantage
Hello Mats! That for sure is a safe pot!! But you didn’t use my latest pot holders, that means your parts can no longer fit PivTit and RotTit of the latest version… I guess, it’s because you already had PivTit and RotTit printed from the previous version. I like your little potentiometer board option, it’s handy for to simply disconnect.
Hi Gael. I added two versions of the pot holder to Thingiverse. They fit the latest version of the shoulder. One version is without the cable guide and the other with the cable guide.
Great Mats !
Gael Langevin a publié une note il y a 10 ans
Printing another InMoov, because the original is going to stay home. It is a precious robot now! Having a second printer makes it fast, specially because I updated the firmware to Sailfish on the CTC printer. I used to print on Kapton with the ABS but finally got to print directly on glass which is giving a super result and surprisingly absolutely…En afficher davantage
PS: removal of the slurry ABS on the glass after print is done, simply run under cold water tab and it will detach itself like magic. Dry the glass plate and you are ready to go again.
Hi Gael – great info thank you.what is the consistency of the ABS slurry you use. your prints are look great.
The slurry is almost totaly liquid. It’s hard to say how much percent of ABS and acetone. Maybe 20 to 30 percent of ABS for 100 acetone.
Hi Gael I still think you should give HT-PLA a try and use a print plate that will not need any slurry or tape and allows to remove items by just picking them up from the cooled out print bed!
i am making inmoov right hand so can i get the Tensioner.stl file for it please i am not getting it anywhere can you please provide me the link of it
The tensioner is with the servobed in the galery…
InMoov body parts library :
Gael Langevin a publié une note il y a 10 ans et 1 mois
My printer is out of work for a moment… Gee what a smell, if you ever get your heated bed that burns out, you need to ventilate your workspace!! It took me a while to find a heated bed this size in Europe . 300x200mm. I finally ordered the PCB in Danemark.
wouaaa it is hotttt lol amazing
Oh yeah and it smells really bad in my workshop…
i can t think it is possible and so so dangerous
Uhh, Uhh, my printer manufacturer had changed his print bed product line to make it almost impossible to overheat it (you could fiddle with the control SW however). I assume some workshops could run into serious problems having the printbed burning through. Think about switching to PLA-HT (or HT-PLA) which is as good as ABS but prints on a 50…En afficher davantage
@Geal I guess it’s beause your heating bed’s temperature sensor have loose from your heating bed!! I suggest you check complete all your 3D printer’s switch, sensors to prevent this happen again…
Because it is also been a very long time that I wanted to inverse the InMoov logo on the hand, this has been the occasion to clean up those parts. Check now for the version V6 of the…En afficher davantage
Hey I just fused under Blender my recent modified TopMouth and LowBack. Rotated at 45° on the Z axe and they actually still fit in the correct 12cm3 build area !!
So now TopMouth and LowBack are permanently fused on the InMoov website. and can be screwed instead of being glued. Make sure to get the V3 version on InMoov.fr. I didn’t update my…En afficher davantage
This is awesome! The 2 topmouth pieces have always been kind of a pain to work with, so that will help alot.
Yes indeed, I also did a reprint with fused topmouth after coming back from India, the head had been damaged in the suitcase during flight travel. It is much easier to assemble now.
Well it took me a while but it is done!
New builders will have a lot more fun to assemble the skull now. I have set screw and bolts holders in various parts to make the last fit much easier. You can use 3mm screws and bolts to attach the parts together. I modified: -TopMouth -SideHear -LowBack
Ahhh, great, I had started to add flabs n stuff to keep them from falling apart.
Mats Önnerby a publié une note il y a 10 ans et 3 mois
I’m almost finished with the mechanical build and the testing of each servo individally. Next step is to purchase / build and install all the electronics and batteries. The back is still a bit empty.
Super cool !! Your choice of colors remind me of Leonardo’ super hero: http://inmoov.fr/members/leonardo/album/ How is the Raspi doing for post processing video tracking on MyRobotLab? I will post the Back Parts soon…
You should post your pictures in your album, you might get featured on the side page.
I get about 2 FPS when doing facetracking. That is good enough, however I also get 5 seconds latency, and that a bit to much. I have tried using the camera outside MRL and I get good results from the camera. I can stream at about 30 fps about .2 s latency. That is good. I had a problem that took me some time to figure out. The java runtime that…En afficher davantage
I would love to have this on my desk, I only have a head so far, and that’s controlled by LEGO
I also realised some time ago that using the latest version of MRL which uses OpenCV 3.0 that I would get a low fps result. I was recently mentionning that to Grog and he said he would digg into it. So, using the Lenovo tablet touchpad with the version 1.0.107 gets me with a a fps of approximately 30. Using the version 1.0.954, gets me to a 7/10 fps.
Gael Langevin a publié une note il y a 10 ans et 3 mois
Small video to explanation the driving system of my plateform and the locking mecanism for to be able to push InMoov by hand while driving direction with the remote. I\’m in the process to make a very small remote transmitter which could be held within the palm.
Thanks Gael, now I see how it all works. I like how you can detach the drive wheel to push it around manually. See my comments on Sebastiens’s post.
@Bob, to answer your previous questions on Sebastien’s post: The base can carry InMoov easily. You can add at least 10kg and the base can still ride fine as long as the floor is flat. When I use InMoov in the street, the wheels can overcome some holes if it rides full speed. If you look at my video, you can see a battery carrier between the two…En afficher davantage
Sebastien a publié une note il y a 10 ans et 3 mois
Airwin InMoov driven with a wireless PS2 gamepad
I like your drive system. Can you share some details about the components you used to build it – motors, servos?
Thank you Bob, this InMoov plateform is widely inspired from the one Gael made. My components are coming from old broken stuff to make it low cost as it is a temporary solution waiting for legs :-).
The arduino uno that manage the inmoov neopixel ring is now also used to read commands coming from a wireless PS2 Gamepad ( thanks to Bill Porter…En afficher davantage
i like your choice color in your inmoov!!!
Thank You 🙂
Awesome, now we can go racing!! Thanks for all the links. I am still using a huge Transmitter gracefully given by Alessandro during the Paris Makerfaire, but I really want to build something much smaller which could transmit directly to the receiver. Having two functionality for the mobile plateform is super handy when you travel with…En afficher davantage
Sebastien and Gael, Thanks for sharing the details on your bases. They are very simple and efficient. How much weight can the base carry/move around. Gael, yes, EZ Robot can do the voice controls as well. I can run my drive motors with Voice command, or manually on the computer or mobile app. I’m looking at building a lighter base like this but…En afficher davantage
@Bob, I replied to your questions on the thread in which I posted the video with the base.
Using MyRobotLab and creating a special control GUI with sliders. This might be using MaVo\’s GestureCreator in the background.
Students at IES Vegas assembling the eye mecanism on InMoov\’s face.
It is nice to see young people working on things like this.
Sebastien a publié une note il y a 10 ans et 4 mois
Hello, Just to share with you the very first wheel spin of Airwin this night. I hope the small motor coming from an old electric Kids Toy will not soon burn.
Ehi!!! There is something of a Déjà Vu. Using a golf caddie is a very good option! Is it sturdy enough? I am pretty sure your motors will do the job, InMoov is a light fellow!
Gaël, yes it’s widely inspired from what you do 🙂 . (i first write Wildly Inspired 🙂 Sure « light is right » This Golf caddie is in aluminium so it is really sturdy, don’t know how many clubs it can support but one InMoov seems ok.
Hey cool! We should make a new link in the « Build Yours » for the 3D printed wheel system. I have almost all the parts designed and ready to upload.
Looks great nice work!
Thank you.
Oh yes, wonderfull a full 3D printed wheel !!! better than looking for old golf caddie :-).
Nice looking base. How does it work? Do you have a video of it moving around?
Hi Bob, i just post a small video
Gael Langevin a publié une note il y a 10 ans et 4 mois
Waaaoooo release of the MidStomach parts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s been asked so many times, that even though you will have to re-print all these parts when the legs will be released, that I decided to upload those parts anyway. I also made a pretty good tutorial with it, so CHEER UP, and get your printers warmed u…En afficher davantage
Thank you very much, was waiting for him, it was what I needed.
thank you gael
Thanks very much Gael!
Gael Langevin a publié une note il y a 10 ans et 5 mois
Hi everyone! I uploaded all parts for the new eye mecanism inspired by Mats Onnerby and Bob Houston. The mecanism is more sturdy and gives wider degrees of rotation for the eyes. I created files that are simple to print with no support besides for EyeSupport and they require no modifications of EyeGlass (Face). Also I managed to use the same…En afficher davantage
Awesome Gael and thanks for the files and the tutorial.
Thank you Gaël , i cant wait to start the head !
Last night InMoov had something of a Picasso painting… Modifying the eye mecanism to adapt a mix of Mat and Bob to be able to use my previous face design along with the Hercules camera and the DS929HV servos.
OOOhhhh Yes,
This is very good news Gael 🙂 I will soon start printing the head, so your update is just on time 😉
This week I will receive my new _XT filament from ColorFabb. I hope it’s a good filament to use for most InMoov parts, even for the shoulder mechanical parts.
Other question about the camera, are you still happy with your…En afficher davantage
Well the hercules HD does a good job as far as what I do with it. But as I said it would be ideal to have a board for post processing things like tracking, face tracking, object color detections to let the computer do other tasks. The Pixy camera would be great but it is mounted on such a big board…
I will wait for this camera: https://openmv.io/ Leon has ordered them via kickstarter 🙂 This has the same results and is smaller ! I hope the price is the same like the Pixy cam.
The Pixy already used a 4-layer PCB, so it would be a hard work to make this smaller 🙂 Option is to ask for a sort camera-shield mount option.
I use the raspberry PI camera in one of the eyes of the modified head. It’s much better quality than a USB 2.0 camera. And the intention is to use the Rpi to do image processing. You can even find a really small version of the camera. https://www.pi-supply.com/product/adafruit-spy-camera-raspberry-pi/
@Marten, As you mention in private message the OpenMV could be a nice option because it is python based and Open source which could be easily added to MyRobotlab with no need to use an extra Rpi. @Mats, I personnaly would rather a smaller device than having to use a Rpi for the image processing, because with the tests I did using the Rpi the fps…En afficher davantage
Mats Önnerby a publié une note il y a 10 ans et 5 mois
The new dual track servo pulleys interfere with the cover of the hand. If you use them some material needs to be removed from the arm cover to make room for the front middle pulley. Thanks to Juerg who warned me that this could be a problem.
Hi Mats,
Is this a option to use: https://copy.com/1K7hNQFiuvHMBHUh (sorry, there is no option to upload a picture directly in a commend) As you can see at the drawing, there is a normal sized part (left side) and a smaller sized part (right side). For the smaller side (with a oval form) you have to play to get the correct length you need. If…En afficher davantage
Hi Marten. I just cut of a few mm’s of the hand cover support. It’s only there to support the structure during print. I don’t want to replace the dual track pulleys since they work very well. Have a look here for a demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5S-8hjsMr8
I’ve seen the video and the results are perfect ! The option was more meant to update the Pulley’s for other InMoov builders, how like to use your Pulley’s, so they haven’t to cut anything 😉
From a math point of view, an excentric pulley will work very different. With two tracks, it’s just linear movements. The excentric can only work between very limited angles. With two tracks, you can rotate any angle. The ratio will still be the same.
Maybe reducing the filet height for the tendon, this way the pulley would be less high and wouldn’t cause a problem with the covers of the for arm.
Awesome solution for tensors Mats! Thanks a lot for it and for sharing it over thingverse!
Saved me $$ on springs!
😀
Sorry forgot to ask if this solution need a different MRL configuration, if so can you be so kind to explain changes need please? Thanks again!
No change to MRL, except that you may have to change the max and min values for each servo that controls each finger, but thats someting you probably will need to do anyway.
Nice, thanks!
I added a new video to show the difference between the original servo pulley for the hand, and the new dual track pulley. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5S-8hjsMr8
Ehi Mat, thanks for sharing! I will print one to test on a finger starter kit to see the effects.
A litte update to expain the reason that I redesigned the servo pulleys. I use the fingerstarter to explain. In the first picture the hand is open and both lines are stretched. On the second picture the hand is closed, but the lines are not stretched any more. To close the finger the servo pulls about 27mm and releases 27mm on the other end. But…En afficher davantage
Pictures were uploaded in a different order than I expected. So the last picture shows the open finger with lines stretched and the two other when it’s closed and the lines are not stretched anymore.
hi mats Maybe I see things the wrong way but I do not understand why you have to modify the pully. Set your servo to the middle position than add the pully with a 10 mm offset towards the closing side. In MRL define a mapping that covers the 44 mm range for the full movement with your servo?
Hi Juerg. Please post some pictures or a video of your solution.
Video of testing the new servo pulleys for the hand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwx3JIakDV0
Very good idea the « double pulley ». You get the same results for the pinky and middle finger ?
Almost. Even if the pinky moves a shorter distance than the middle finger, the ratio between opening and closing seems to be almost the same. I only use one pulley size for all fingers.
Very good idea!
I have made new servo pulleys for the hand. They have two tracks with different diameters, since you need to pull a longer distance to close the hand than to open it.http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1074604
This looks interesting – How would you describe the improvment to the hand’s movement?
To close one finger you need to pull 27mm but to open it again only 17mm, The 10mm in difference will result in that the lines easily fall out of the tracks, The servos will also have a deadband of 10mm before they start to pull, With this construction the lines will be stretched all the time, so the fingers will keep their position better.
The reason I am asking is if you think the springs that were introduced to keep the strings tight would still be needed ?
Good question. I don’t think that springs are necessary, but if you turn the wrist, the lines will be tightened. So you have to compensate for that by relaxing the tension on the lines a little,
Hi Mats Can’t really see why you want to modify the pully. Put your servo to middle position and add the pully with an offset to the closing position that will account for the different distances for opening and closing. The use the mapping feature of mrl to adjust the overall distance for your servo in use?
I posted an update to explain the probem.
Sebastien a publié une note il y a 10 ans et 5 mois
Yeah, MyRobotLab the InMoov brain sowtware is also on the Shoulders covers, pretty nice tatoo 🙂
looks good! i’m printing them to put on kim
Thanks, You are going to print the new release with bigger letters. Please send a picture of Kim with his shoulder cover 🙂 I called my InMoov Airwin
Yes the bigger letters make it easier to see them!
The new version has bigger letters indeed and filet around the edge.
Gael Langevin a publié une note il y a 10 ans et 6 mois
I just modified the CableHolderWristV4 to V5.
It is now screwed with the servo instead of being glued to the servo.
InMoov
I’m wondering how Gareth, or anyone else, would proceed to use the below Blender file along with virtual InMoov to create simili human gestures.
The c3d addon for Blender is in the preferences to be added.
http://inmoov.fr/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/walking_slow03.c3d
If we could these kind of files along with the riggs of virtual InMoov, it…En afficher davantage
Feeling like showing your InMoov is powered by MyRobotLab ? These little covers go on each shoulder.
Cool and sure, MRL deserved it to get placed at the shoulders from InMoov.
Last day of Makerfaire Berlin for Tonerwerk with his very nice InMoov. Check the pictures he posted on the forum: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/inmoov/vyEVQvZ0cjU%5B1-25%5D
Bob Houston is having problems posting on the community activity, therefor he requested I would do it for him. If you also encounter problems which don’t allow you to post pictures or videos, let us know on the forum, we will try to figure the problem. Bob has remixed a new eye mechanism which is pretty cool! It is…En afficher davantage
@ Bob Houston,
This looks awesome dude, great work and a cool upgrade to the InMoov !
I can’t wait to see some more video’s with the Eye tracking options 🙂
just WAHOOOO
Good idea, Gael, about an adjustment to prevent cross eyes. I have designed a new part that will allow for that adjustment. I have added it to the STL’s on Thingiverse.
Ah perfect! Hey but you can add comments? So it works now for you the community?
Hmmm, that’s strange that it shows up here but I can’t see my comment on the main Community page
bonjour tout le monde! est ce que bob Houston pourrait faire partager a la communauté inmoov les plans et les fichiers stl de son châssis et la colonne sur roue qu’on voit sur la vidéo youtube? merci d’avance
Mats Önnerby a publié une note il y a 10 ans et 6 mois
First test of the servos. The neck works fine. Jaws needs to be changed to increase the speed of movement. Eye servos tested but not connected to the eyes.
That looks like a very good design I really like the eye movement
Hey cool ! Thanks for posting the video!! I love to see stuff like that. Yes the speed of the jaw needs to be increased. Bob Houston has made a remix for the eyes, I wonder if it fits in one normal InMoov head.
Hello guys, Here are some more pictures of the new back for InMoov. It integrates a ThinkPad Tablet 8″ which can be replaced with other tablets fitting the same width size specs. A clip on, printed mechanism, makes it easy to insert or remove. Access to the two Arduino Mega and the Nervo Boards is easy once the tablet is removed. Access to the…En afficher davantage
Sorry for posting so fast Just got excited when I saw the pictures from your trip you posted, when do you think you will release them?
I got totally excited myself when finally I could mount them on my InMoov. Yes I will release them. A few little things to modify, specially where the clavi potentiometer rotates, and also the battery holder needs to go a little lower to let access to the power cable of the Tablet.
That is a really nice back. Looks good and will protect all the electronics and hide some of the servos.
Thanks Mats
The eye mechanism can be found here: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1035688
Great modification! I’m printing it now. Thanks for sharing the STL’s.
I added the part that is needed for the neck to part 1 http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:992918.
Great!
I’m almost finished with the head. Next step is to connect the servos to the Arduino and power supply.
Awesome work! I like the way you re-arranged the space to be able to add the Raspberry and the Arduino. Does the jaw still have a servo attached to the mechanism? I sure would like to see a video of the eyes in action!! Thanks for sharing your modifications on Thingiverse, I appreciate you respected the licence. I have added all three links to the…En afficher davantage
Hi Gael. I have a jaw servo, It’s located where front cogwheels was mounted. I use the modified neck that was designed by Bob Huston. I see now that I have missed to post the part that replaces the other cogwheel. I will do that soon. Picture one shows the location of the servo just above the speaker and picture three shows the modified jaw…En afficher davantage
Okay I see it now. Post a video when you are ready with it.
Hi Gaël. I think the link should point here: http://www.thingiverse.com/Gael_Langevin/collections/inmoov-parts-and-derivatives. Same problem with the link on the « InMoov parts and derivates » page and also on the « Build yours » page.
Yes thinks for pointing it out. Problem fixed.
Nice upgrade Mats 🙂 I’m sure it will be a EyeCatcher !
I hope to print the head after my Finger Sensor project… and will use your EyeCatchers 😉
Sebastien uploaded a new picture: inmoov-doigt-3dprin… il y a 10 ans et 6 mois
Finger Starter, the very first things i 3D print. A really good starting point on the InNoov project and robotics. If you can do a Finger you can print a Robot :-). Nails are paint by my daughter Servo base is in PLA and the finger in ABS
Finger Starter
Haha, It’s good that you say that the nails where painted by your daughter 🙂
For a first print it looks very well printed. Have fun with it.
(I see you have placed a link in your message, is the link bug fixt ?)
Hello Marten, haha i’m going to open the first french manucure for robots :-), most seriously i think to use this to easily detect the finger position using color detection in the pictures I have a flash forge creator : it produce very good print at the begining, but after 50 hours, the 3mm aluminum plate start curving, even with a glass plate…En afficher davantage
Sebastien a publié une note il y a 10 ans et 6 mois
Stomach in progress this week, ouch the most difficult is to paint the finger in black 🙂
Cool after working on the website , a bit of fun 3D printing! was there the script in my database for the NeoPixel ring, I can’t remember if I have uploaded it on the site? If not let me know and I will.
Hi Gaël, yes my 3d printer feel a bit alone these last weeks :-). I restart printing for finish InMoov asap I use the arduino script you post here
NeoPixel ring : arduino code for stomach
, it works perfecly. thanks (Just need to install the adafruit library) I don’t check if MyRobotLab already have added the NeoPixelRing service ?
Good! Well, no the NeoPixel Ring is not yet implemented in MRL. It actually means, it needs to run on a seperate Arduino dedicated only for that function.
hello what is the model for the stomach NeoPixel Ring it’s 12, 16 or 24 led?
Martin, It’s the 16 led ring ref. Adafruit Flora Neopixel Ring 1463 http://www.adafruit.com/product/1463
Gael Langevin a publié une note il y a 10 ans et 7 mois
@ambroise super, Really looking forward to see the video
Mats Önnerby uploaded a new picture: 20150906 002.JPG il y a 10 ans et 7 mois
I had several ideas when I started to print the head. The large servo was more expensive than a small, so I tried to replace it with a standard size sero. I also wanted to mount a better camera in the head than a USB camera. My modified head contains a Raspberry PI 2 with a Raspberry Pi Camera module mounted in one of the eyes. It also contains…En afficher davantage
wooouu, setting the brain in the skull. What sort of camera did you set in? I tested my full InMoov with the Raspi2 and was a bit disapointed with latency. The Odroid U3 was also having latency… Let us know your Rasp2 acts when you will be using speech recognition along with OpenCV tracking, so we can share comparison.
I use a Raspberry PI Camera module connected directly to the Raspberry CSI port. I has really good quality for still pictures and video stream is OK. I tried to use it with MRL and the OpenCV service, but I got some error messages. I will sort it out with the developers of MRL. Thay are all very nice, skilled and helpful people.
Others have tested the Raspi Camera module into MRL with success. Your errors might be related to which version of MRL you are using. When I tested the camera with the Raspi2, I was using version 1.1.107 and it was working fine, though with latency.
Mats Önnerby uploaded a new picture: 20150910 017.JPG il y a 10 ans et 7 mois
This is a part of the Bicep. I use PLA, and it's not as soft as ABS. So when I tried to mount them together, it was impossible, because it wouldn't flex. But PLA gets soft at relativley low temperatures, so I used a heatgun at a low setting to heat the connections. After heating the plastics for a short while, it was easy to mount them together.…En afficher davantage
Great idea, I’m sure this will a lot of builders using PLA!
I should add this suggestion in the tutorial for PLA users if it is okay with you.
Yes, please. The main reason for me to share my experences is to help other builders.
Mats Önnerby uploaded a new picture: 20150907 012.JPG il y a 10 ans et 7 mois
Hand and forarm printed in black PLA. I use recessed M3 screws to hold it together. I drill a 3mm hole in the part to be mounted. In the part that it should be mounted to, I first drill a 2.3 mm hole and then I use a 3mm taps to make a thread. It's not easy to make the thread straigth by hand, so I mount it in a drill.The 8mm screws are made from…En afficher davantage
Tabing the holes really helps, it is what I also do. Unfortunately not everyone has this kind of tools. Great work by the way!
Sebastien a publié une note il y a 10 ans et 8 mois
Hello, Is somebody try voices for inmoov comming from Voxygen French cie ?
Yes, on https://voxygen.fr/ like the bicool voice 😉
Sebastien uploaded a new picture: inmoov-introspectio… il y a 10 ans et 8 mois
Gael Langevin a publié une note il y a 10 ans et 10 mois
Some time ago I was in Poitiers, invited for the Gamers Assembly by Quai-Lab. I met some young fellows that wanted to build legs for InMoov following good dimensions and my 3d view concept. Here is what they have achieved so far, they started to print them as…En afficher davantage
Really cool!
I hope and i pray that our Inmoov will get legs!!!
InMoov with realistics eyes by Peter Anderson
Sebastien a publié une note il y a 10 ans et 10 mois
>Airwin first video…
Airwin InMoov robot first video
Great! I always enjoy videos, specially when they are comic! By the way great progress Quai-Lab
Bob Houston made a modification to my neck mecanism, which is pretty cool.
Gael Langevin a publié une note il y a 11 ans
Но главным детищем Яна стал «InMoov». Это робот, напечатанный на 3D принтере с программным кодом управления, взятым из «open source». InMoov build by Ian, a Russian student.