• Thomas posted an update 7 years, 11 months ago

    @admin Hi Gael first of all bon noël pour toi, this is the rest of my french learned in school many years ago.
    My question is what about the legs, I saw many videos from you and inmoov legs but I have no idea how I can realize them. Is there any publishing planned ?

    Best regards Thomas1

  • Markus posted an update 7 years, 11 months ago

    Robyn inmoov alternativ Wheels

    • Nice work,,,, are the -Mecanum Wheels- on the other side any good..?- I v seen them on other projects and was wondering are they an improvement over the wheel or do they just look really cool,,,,,

  • Hello InMoovers,

    I like to include the FSR (Force Sensitive Sensor) to all my finger servo’s.
    https://learn.adafruit.com/force-sensitive-resistor-fsr
    For the starter_kit I’ve re-designed some servo adapter things, to make it possible to slide the servo forwards/backwards.
    Next step, is the position-holder for the FSR.

    To get a idea how it looks:…[Read more]

  • Simon posted an update 7 years, 11 months ago

    Just sharing my led finger tip sensors. I plan to use an IR sensor in the hand to detect objects.

    • you might have better sources for IR sensors – my own experiments and results are rather poor. Another issue might be integrating the sensors result into the control loop. I think without an optical identification of the part you want to grab you won’t be able to gain much. Another issue is the current joint angels of your finger parts. These…[Read more]

  • Simon posted an update 7 years, 11 months ago

    I am trying to find out if many people are using Gael\’s finger tip sensors on their InMoov\’s. Is there really any benefits of having the sensors on the finger tips.
    Thanks,
    Mike

    • Depends on if your happy with fingers that can move buts that all they can do,,, the sensors allow the fingers to realise when the have touch an object and stop the servos from moving any further,, this allows Inmoov to pick up objects that have different sizes/shapes,,- now this all done with the software,,, so this is where the guys over at…[Read more]

  • Markus posted an update 7 years, 11 months ago

    Robyn Inmoov at Karlstad CCC

  • Markus posted an update 8 years ago

    Robyn Inmoov samsung gear 360 test

  • Before I can start with my complete InMoov, I need to upgrade my UM2 filament spool-holder.
    I’ve ordered some COLORFABB_XT spools with 2.2kg filament 🙂
    Not sure if XT filament is the right choice for some mechanical parts.

    • yep… Colorfabb is great stuff, iv tried every brand/type out there ,, i do a lot of printing,,, In Australia i use “Blueprinted” filaments which is pretty good quality for a cheap filament Colorfabb is hard to get here and its bloody expensive..
      I only use PLA you would surprised how tough the stuff when printed correctly – you wont have any…[Read more]

      • Thanks for your information.
        I get lucky to live in the Netherlands, the shipping costs are free when I order one spool.
        And with the 2.2kg spools it’s 30% less in price.

        I’m sure I need to play with some settings (temps and max speed).
        I hope to start this evening with some tests 🙂

        I’ve used CollorFabb PLA for some time now and this prints…[Read more]

        • Its worth having a go at trying other other filaments but iv found you really cant beat good quality PLA when its printed correctly,, its hard so its good for gears and moving parts It prints like a dream compered to other filaments,,, and it doesn’t destroy the planet,,,
          I’v been R&D on 3d printers full-time for about 4 years now, mainly on d…[Read more]

          • CollorFabb PLA is good material anyway.
            XT can handle a higher temp when it’s printed, this part is a positive thing if InMoof stays for a long day in sunlight.
            So maybe I will use XT for some outside parts and all others with PLA 🙂

  • The new printed shaft fits well and it looks that it can handle the rotation.

  • So, the new hexagonal shaft / Small_Gear and Servo_adapter files are uploaded 🙂
    http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1824042
    I will test this soon and will share a video later this week.

  • Alan Timm posted an update 8 years, 1 month ago

    • Quick and simple demo of full body animation using a wireless x-y pendant. Lots of changes and stuff to share. I’ll refilm it later on this week when I have the next set of changes complete (with less noise and a clean desk)

      rviz running in background displaying robot state. The basic animation is there, still have a fair bit of tuning to get…[Read more]

    • Fantastic Alan… Best realistic movements so far, hands down!… I am working on a new inMoov which I am also planning some sophisticated movement management…

      • Did you create your own custom ROS package for this? I still use ez robot but would love to move up to ROS as it looks like much more can be done with ROS than either ez robot or MyRobotLab… I dabbled with ROS a while back so maybe it’s about time I have another look…

        • Hey Richard, thanks!

          Each toolkit has it’s own benefits. There’s a nice community built up around InMoov+MRL, so it’s a great way to get started without writing everything from scratch. Another R.S.S.C. club member is building an InMoov using EzRobot, and I think there are some others on the forum as well.

          I went with ROS because I wanted to…[Read more]

    • Great work, superb work full of fluidity,. Gestures follow like water in a river.
      Friendly
      Sy.

    • Looks great!

    • A very late comment to your great work using ROS in conjonction with InMoov.
      I had shared your great video on my Google+ page right after you posted it.
      Thanks for your video, I really enjoyed looking at InMoov moving so gracefully.

    • juerg replied 8 years ago

      Hi Alan
      Just made first steps with ROS and found the github-links. So I have inmoov_model-master.zip and inmoov_ros-master.zip
      Can you point me to a tuto where to place the files and probably even make it run?

      • Hey Juerg, Firstly, follow all the tutorials to install and set up ROS. Then, you should be able to follow the README.md from here:
        https://github.com/alansrobotlab/inmoov_ros/tree/master

        After you get everything set up, you’ll most likely want to run the urdf model in rviz, using this command:
        roslaunch inmoov_description display.launch…[Read more]

        • juerg replied 8 years ago

          Thanks Alan
          Started the beginners tutorial and had a look at your linked tuto.
          As I just recently installed ROS I got the kinetic version. Looks like I have to wait for a fitting Moveit version. But as the package looks rather big and complex I will anyway need to work myself through all the tutorials first.

          • Yep, I have a new SSD with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and ROS Kinetic waiting for MoveIt to be released. They’re very close to their first release. Until then, you will have some time to familiarize yourself with the core ROS concepts, go through the tutorials, and control the urdf model in rviz.

            If you haven’t found it already, Jason has published his…[Read more]

            • juerg replied 8 years ago

              Hi Allen
              Spent some time to try to make inmoov run with kinetic . Found a few issues with scripts (renamed .py file, missing include vector, boost shortcomings but was finally able to run setup_parameters.py
              As I run unbunto on my PC in a VirtualBox I assume it is correct that the servobus.launch complains about missing ports.
              trying to run rviz…[Read more]

            • Hey juerg,

              I haven’t moved everything to ROS Kinetic yet, but I’ll keep an eye out for the issues you’ve shared.

              Unfortunately, the glue code in the ROS stack that I’ve published will only work with my robot, but it is a great starting point to integrate ROS into your bot.

              You should be able to run the urdf model in rviz, then write python…[Read more]

    • Nice work Alan,

      Any idea when you will be releasing the demo? I’d love to try it out

  • Instead of a DogBone shaft, I’ve designed a new small Wrist_Gear and servo-adapter and will use a 6mm hexagonal shaft.
    I hope the 6mm hexagonal shaft is strong enough 🙂
    Tomorrow I will print all parts and if it works fine, I will include these parts to the Wrist upgrade set @ Thingiverse.

  • I\’ve uploaded all Wrist upgrade files to Thingiverse:
    http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1824042
    Enjoy… and don\’t forget to share your results 🙂

  • Today I received my new Lenovo Thinkpad 8,3″ and the DogBone shaft 🙂
    Later this day, I hope to finish the last things for the new Wrist DogBone shaft.
    (I need to change some small things to makethe DogBone shaft fit between the small Wrist gear and to the servo DogBone adapter)

  • I’ve connect all fishing lines to the fingers and the servo’s.
    All runs more freely and looks OK for me, here the test video with a complete Arm/Hand/Fingers:

    • That is awesome. No tensioning spring is the best feature! I guess you could add a tension spring like you had in your single finger tutorial.
      I think this is pretty innovative which begs the question what does the rest of your bot look like?

      • Hi Perry,
        Yes for sure I will include the springs which I’m using with my Finger_Starter kit.
        This makes programming a closed position more easy and they are to safe the servo mechanical way 🙂

        • Sounds like it is time to follow you on Thingiverse 🙂

          • 🙂
            I think after this weekend I will upload all files, which are needed to upgrade the Wrist part and this includes the new ServoBed for the small servo’s and the Wrist servo.
            I can’t see that these smaller servo’s can hold it for a longer period 🙂
            But so far it looks good and including the springs I think it’s safe enough to use them!

    • Very nice Marten!
      It’s very interesting to see how you managed the wrist servo, I guess we could add a second servo for wrist abduction. That would be a great extra feature. (Hand Mini breakout Nervo Boards and Nervo boards would need to be transformed and all scripts and gestures as well though…)
      Will you test it running continuously full 10…[Read more]

  • Finally the new ServoBed is done and fits very well.
    For now I’m using a 98mm DogBone drive shaft from a tamiya RC truck.
    Later, I will order this one:
    https://www.rcplanet.com/Associated_Dogbone_108mm_SC8_2e_RTR_p/asc89576.htm

    • Very nice work. I’m waiting to see the fingers and wrist working together. Fantastic

      • Thanks Rodolfo,
        Here a video from this complete setup:

        Tomorrow I will start to connect all the finger fishing-lines to the servo-pulley’s 🙂

        It looks good so far 😉

        • Once again nice work. It would be great to have a printable shaft for the wrist as opposed to a dog bone. Just another part I would have to wait for when I want to try something late at night. I thought you had a different servo offset in your previous vid and didn’t need the universal joint functionality

          • Thanks Perry,

            A printable shaft would be cool, I only think it’s not strong enough !
            And DogBone shafts are very basic parts which are used in RC cars.
            Most local dealers will selling them.

            About the servo, in the first test video I was using a “Low Profile” servo.
            For some reason, these servo’s will not run with a Arduino !
            For this reason I…[Read more]

          • Check my last post, to see the full functional Arm/Hand/Fingers:

            I’ve connect all fishing lines to the fingers and the servo’s.All runs more freely and looks OK for me, here the test video with a complete Arm/Hand/Fingers:https://youtu.be/8xlMrEUZBTw[Read more]– Marten de Groot (@mdg_nl) October 7, 2016

  • The Servobed is updated, so tonight I can mount the Wrist servo and measure the distance between the small Wrist-Gear and the servo.
    To finish this Wrist update, I only need to print the servo link.
    Then it’s time to mount the Hand and all the fingers 🙂 (I can’t wait…)

  • I’ve decided to make new Wrist Gears to, so all the Finger-fishing lines are more in line with the servo’s !
    The Wrist servo will placed on the Finger servobed and with a axle it will be connected to the small Gear.
    When I’ve printed the Gears, I can start drawing the Servo part…
    Later I will share more pictures and if it works, I will share all…[Read more]

    • I wish that works, it’s a great Idea

      • Haha, my fingers are crossed 🙂

        The Wrist servo is blocking the complete way for all fishing-lines.
        With the servo placed on the servobed, it makes it full open.
        So this saves a lot of friction 🙂

        (printer is almost done with the last peace 🙂 )

    • Hello Marten. I came to that exact same conclusion last night while assembling my tendons. They have been very finicky and I am not confident the spring system will hold up. The wrist rotation really plays with the tensions and geometries. I was thinking of a system where the lines ran through the centerline of the wrist. The servo can be moved…[Read more]

  • I’ve updated the info (included a “How To” for my Finger_Starter kit V2:
    http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1794206
    And here a video without the spring:

    • Awesome Marten… going to try these servo pulleys with my new inMoov I am currently building… good work man…

      • Thanks Richard,
        Mechanical way it looks good enough for me.
        These pulley’s will need the full 180 degrees from a servo !
        Make sure your servo’s supporting this 180 degree turn.

        My next step is to see, if the smaller servo’s are strong enough for the complete InMoov Hand !
        I hope to find some spare-time tomorrow, during my work… 🙂

    • Great Marten! I want to see when the pulley is set in the servo bed how the servos are acting. As I said in our email exchange, I have burned so many MG996 and MG995, that I do not trust those servos anymore. I never, yet burned a HK15298.
      Initially when I created the pulley and the servo bed it was for to solve a restriction rotation of 90…[Read more]

      • Tomorrow and the next two day’s I have some spare time during the day 🙂
        First I need to finish my Wrist update, this will help a lot to run more freely !
        Yesterday evening/night I’ve printed the first parts and one needs a small modification to fit better.
        When this fits well, I can draw the servo part…

        I will do my best, to show a moving…[Read more]

  • Here two pictures from all MG996R servo’s and All CS238MG servo’s, to see the difference in the total weights.
    The CS238MG servo’s saving a 161 gram of weight and they are placed more closer to the elbow !
    Both are a positive part, to safe a lot of friction to all arm and shoulder servo’s

    For the CS238MG it was necessary to redesign a simple…[Read more]

  • So, all five Servo Pulley’s are done to 🙂
    Tomorrow evening (after work) it’s time to assembling all things together.

  • So, the CS238MG ServoAdapter production is done for the Right Hand 🙂
    Next production are five Servo Pulley sets….

  • Here some pictures to show the difference between the servo weights…
    The MG996R was my first choice for the InMoov hand.
    The CS238MG servo weights including a mounted servo-adapter 30gr. less as the MG996R !
    So if I will use these CS238MG servo’s for my InMoov hand, it will saves a 150gr. of weight 🙂
    I think when I’ve finished the new…[Read more]

    • They may save weight but they may not be strong enough for the inMoov hand… The hand is not the same as the finger starter. There is a lot more friction on the push/pull finger mechanisms. The servos need to work much harder than the simple finger kit… However, let us know if they work because less weigh is always welcome…

      • Hi Richard,
        I’m almost sure these smaller servo’s are strong enough for the Hand.
        (don’t forget the special pulley which I’m using!)
        The spring which I’m using now, is perfect to start.
        If needed, I can use a stronger spring to get more torque.
        I hope to show the results this weekend 🙂
        My goal is minimum to hold a softball or a bottle of…[Read more]

  • If you like to print my new Finger_Starter kit including the new pulley’s, here you can find all the files 🙂
    http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1794206

    Have fun… 😉

  • Today I finally received my smaller servo’s 🙂
    https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=51891
    After printing a servo-adapter, to mount this smaller servo in a standard servo place…
    I made some tests with the new pulley and it looks all great !
    The current use stay’s very low, even when I’m holding down the…[Read more]

  • Here two views from the pulley which I’m testing with the Finger Starter Kit V2 🙂

    When the Finger moves to the Open position, the pulley is pulling with the small circular side.
    And when the Finger moves to the Closed position, the bigger oval side is used to pull the Finger…
    The servo makes a turn from 0 to 180, that’s way I can use a…[Read more]

    • I want to test these pulleys for sure! I’m guessing it will be also okay for our servos HK 15298 which have a restriction from 0 to 90 degrees.

      • Hi Gaël,

        For a 0 to 90 degree turn, I need to make them a bit bigger !
        These are now designed for 0 to 180 degrees.
        (please check your dropbox ! 🙂 )

        After some tests, I will upload them to Thingiverse.

  • Here a video from the new Finger Starter kit V2…
    The servo current use, stay’s very low during the test, sometimes it’s passing the 0.26A during a start.
    (I’m still waiting for the new servo’s, so a second video will come soon !)

    Regards,
    Marten

  • Finally the Arduino fits well in the updated FingerStarter_Kit.
    (see picture)
    The new pulley and adapter for the small servo also fits well.

    I need to say…..
    I’ve found a other servo, which is a bit bigger and has 10gr more weight
    The good thing is, a standard pulley like Futaba will fit.
    And it has 2,1kg more torque as the small…[Read more]

    • Very cool Marten! Once the finger is assembled, a little video will be nice to see!

      • Hi Gaël,

        Thanks and yes, when all is running fine together…. I will share a “little” video 🙂
        I think this will happen, when I get the new servo’s because of the fit to the pulley’s.
        I hope to get them next Tuesday.

    • when trying to reduce the forarms weight – did you experiment with getting less weight from the printed parts too? Just had a chance to look at a fiber enforced part at an exhibition. It had a thin layer of fiber on top and bottom of the part (needs 2 extruders) but showed impressing strenght.

      • Hi Juerg,

        I hope to save some weights with the new servo’s.
        They have three times less weight then the servo’s which I’m using now.
        And the servobed will be smaller.

        About the printing parts.
        I’ve done one finger with Carbon fill and is very lite.
        I’m only not sure enough, if this is strong enough !

        • how did you print the carbon item? Layer size? Perimeters? Fill?
          what tensions are you using? did you try to reduce friction of the tensions?

  • Alan Timm posted an update 8 years, 2 months ago

    • Proof-of-concept for adding force control/feedback to Servos using the InMoov Finger Starter.

      Modified the kit to accept an FSR. The servo is modified and mounted that it can slide a bit in the direction of force. As the finger tightens, it forces the servo case against the FSR, which is then read. Basic force control written in Arduino as proof…[Read more]

    • simply fantastic! Looks very responsive. Will you share more details about it and the code to run it? As you say it’s controlled by the arduino some more cables to route to the hand or are you thinking about a separate nano controlling each hand?

    • Great project Alan!!
      As mentionned Joel had done a great research on the hall effect sensors. The FSR are not very responsive unless pressure is applied. How did you manage to fix the two kapton copper wiring? Won’t they brake/tear after long term running?

      • Hey Gael, Thanks!

        These FSRs are the exact same ones that many people are using for autolevelling 3d printers, I haven’t heard of them breaking under similar use. Here’s the exact ones that I’m using. https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9375

        Because of their placement next to the servo housing they end up being very sensitive relative to the…[Read more]

        • Thanks for the extra pictures, it gives a good idea about the process!
          What is nice with this setup, is that it avoids having cables running within the fingers. (Which is not easy to work with);
          The servo bed would need a bit of modfication, but all together, it’s not so much work and it could even be applied to forarms that have already been…[Read more]

          • right, big thing, no need to take too much apart.
            My question however is unanswered – I assume the finger tester code reads back the status of the FSR and repositions the finger? This will need 5 more cables from the forearm to the arduino and a modified finger service to take this into account? Or am I (once more) wrong again? Tell me I am…[Read more]

            • The Nervo board can handle the sensors. In my tutorial I explain how to set an extra ribbon dedicated to the sensors. Inded the service will need to be adapted which I have been waiting for ever since I have added the sensors in the fingers. 🙂
              Time to take that in a serious matter!

            • Right, your finger sensor has been in place for a long time but it just looked too fragile to me to build it into the hand. And as you say it never got respected in the servo service?

    • I hadn’t seen this, but there’s a guy out there by the name of Clement Vella who has also worked out a solution using FSRs, not sure if they’re hand made or not, but he a sensor for each direction of force and integrated it into the pulley.

      His video also confirms one of my questions, that maybe applying PID to the control code may work better…[Read more]

  • This is what I’ve printed yesterday, it needs some smalle updates to fit the Arduino better 🙂
    When this all fits well, I will share this @ ThingiFirse including the new servo pulley !

    • Hey Marten, that seems like a great modification. I have a question if you have a moment, since you designed the nerv boards. I have one servo (Rt arm omoplate), which when connected to the nervo board, gets hot and eventually burns when connected to the nervo board. The servo works just fine on a tester etc. I have seen in the tutorial, the…[Read more]

      • Hmm, it sounds there is something else happen with your servo connection.
        If there is a shortcut between the Arduino shield and the small PCB, the flat-cable will start getting hot !
        Please double check if there is no connection between servo outputs 10 and 11.

        If possible could you send me some pictures from your boards?

        • Thanks for trying to help me. I sent images via pvt email.

          • Hello Jaideep,

            Please read this post from @juerg

            An error in a script and an unreachable neck position – just burned another HS805BB so badly, it burned a hole into the case and I can still smell the odor of death when entering the house.I have added now readjustable fuses for all of my large servos (PFRA 160, Reichelt.de).Hope this prevents future smoke!- juerg (@juerg) July 24, 2016

            Give it a try and see if this will solve your problem.

            @juerg
            Which servo’s are you using in combination together, which gives you this “Jitter” problem ?
            Do you have a oscilloscope ?
            If yes, could you make and share some screenshots, when you…[Read more]

  • Today I’ve printed a first updated FingerTest plate, including a spring which I’m using as a mechanical Servo-Safer.
    See pictures….
    And tomorrow I hope to test the new 2.5kg servo’s, this depends of the servo’s will be delivered 🙂
    I can’t wait….

    • Hello Marten,
      Very nice module for a Finger Starter!!!
      There is no doubt that the servo of 2,5kg will work because even a small SG92R works. With the Finger Starter there isn’t much friction. But such servo will burn for sure if used in the hand. The friction is far greater in many ways in the hand, that is the reason even a MG996 of 12kg Torque…[Read more]

      • Hi Gaël,

        The spring main function is to safe the servo mechanical (there is no direct blocking anymore).
        And including my servo pulley’s, the finger “close position” gets a smaller arm length !
        So this safes a lot of energy use from the servo, when the finger is in his “close position” 🙂
        I’m almost sure this spring setup is enough to hold a…[Read more]

  • Hello InMoovers,

    Last weekend a good friend and me where asked to come to the “Mini Maker Faire” in the Netherlands.
    http://www.eindhovenmakerfaire.nl/?lang=en
    We where there “as builders” to talk with people how like to build something like InMoov.
    At our stand, we shared some more projects from https://www.wevolver.com/home/

    During this wee…[Read more]

  • Markus posted an update 8 years, 3 months ago

    Robyn Inmoov practice accuracy

  • Markus posted an update 8 years, 3 months ago

    Robyn Inmoov controlled by a Xbox one wireless controller

    • Great Markus!! This is cool to be able to control the arms gestures so easily.
      Once in position, can you still “capture the gestures” by voice to compile them later into one gesture?

  • Thomas posted an update 8 years, 4 months ago

    @admin Hi Gael what about the stl for the battery lid ? Maybe it is shown at the build yours tutorial.
    Perhaps my eyes aren\’t the best so I can\’t see it
    Thanks in advance

  • Alan Timm posted an update 8 years, 4 months ago

    Quick video showing ROS Kinect2 integration with InMoov.

  • Markus posted an update 8 years, 4 months ago

    Robyn Inmoov celebrating 50000 views.

  • Markus posted an update 8 years, 5 months ago

    Looking awesome now with the new back.

  • Markus posted an update 8 years, 5 months ago

    Waiting for my new back to be finished !

  • Thomas posted an update 8 years, 5 months ago

    Now the pictures of my neck variation ar online on thingiverse.com

  • Markus posted an update 8 years, 5 months ago

    Maker faire bay area 2016

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